Short Final…

Gemini Sparkle

Key Takeaways:

  • A pilot requested a higher initial climb altitude than the 4,000 feet assigned by Air Traffic Control.
  • ATC explained that the 4,000-foot limit is given as a standard procedure in case of lost communication.
  • The pilot responded by reiterating their desire for a higher altitude specifically for a lost communication scenario, suggesting a difference in perspective on optimal safety in such an event.
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Overheard at KLAS, Dec. 19, 2003, 9:30pm…

ATC: NABCD, after departure turn left heading 175 climb and maintain at or below 4,000, departure 125.9 and squawk XXXX.

Pilot: Any chance of a higher inital altitude?

ATC: We give you 4,000 in case of lost com.

Pilot: I know thats why I want higher.

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